"Spiber," which pivoted from spider silk to brewed protein, and "Jinkiiitai," aiming for the societal implementation of humanoid heavy machinery, both representing our country's research and development-based startups, will be taking the stage. Despite their contrasting characteristics in various aspects, these two companies have inevitably collaborated with large corporations throughout their journey of striving for the societal implementation of technology, from their early days of founding. In this special program, facilitated by the CEO of "Euglena," a venture that has grown into a major player on the Tokyo Stock Exchange Prime, they will speak candidly about the dynamics of dealing with both ventures and large corporations. You'll hear about why they choose to partner with large corporations, how they establish connections with these giants, and how they achieve cooperation. This is essential viewing for anyone curious about such interactions with major corporations.